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he's not been a life long foreign policy hawk, but he wants the support of the neocon community out there. he wants people who are hawkish. he's not a member of the religious right. he doesn't run around liberty university or hang around with jerry falwell, but he wants their support. he's not really a ryan republican ideologue conviction politician, but he put him on the ticket. isn't that the fundamental problem with the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. look, chris, i think he's a person who is fundamentally ill suited to being the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an evangelical party and he's a mormon. it's a southern and western -- southern and western party, he's a northeasterner. it's a populist party. he's more or less an establishmentarian. he wanted to say barack obama has failed as an economic steward, and i'm a business guy and so i know how to creat
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some additional questions put in front of the state department. >> he goes on to say it's all political now. i mean, is this going to become a campaign issue? >> absolutely. you're already seeing it become a big issue on the campaign. particularly on the republican side. of course. the problem, though, is that the house and the senate both adjourned for the rest of this year, up until after the election, earlier this month, and so if this is going to be an issue that republicans wield against the obama ticket it's going to be one that they're going to have to do on the campaign trail. now, that spelled a problem for m
so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some...
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is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama administration is certainly not the first to concern itself with political optics but before the proliferation of the 24 hour news cycle and rise of rapid response white houses had different ways of handling it. for example, the kennedy presidency. the newly released audiotapes from jfk's time in the oval office ahead on "now." so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hu
is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama...
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it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. yo
it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if...
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, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point, and two afghan soldiers came up. they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint. and then suddenly one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire, killed one american soldier, killed another american contractor, and then another americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths this year are a result of these insider attacks. and there have been orders issued to try and separate u.s. and afghan forc
, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle...
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policy over the last three and a half years and it's interesting, andrea, to see that foreign policy has made a real comeback, right in the heart of this political campaign right now, everything from the middle east crises to the iran problem with israel and with us, and, of course, china as a scapegoat for both candidates really, and i think it's important that we continue this discussion of foreign policy as the debates approach over the next month. >> exactly. now we've got netanyahu arriving tomorrow, standing at the same podium where iran's president was today. how does he inject himself into the campaign or combat the iranian threats and rhetoric? >> i think prime minister netanyahu is a smart guy, has a real responsibility as he will do, obviously, to take these charges by ahmadinejad seriously. if you're an israeli given israeli and jewish history you cannot disregard the leader of a foreign country who routinely, not just once or twice, says he wants to wipe israel off the map of the world. so prime minister netanyahu has an opportunity tomorrow which i'm sure he'll take to
policy over the last three and a half years and it's interesting, andrea, to see that foreign policy has made a real comeback, right in the heart of this political campaign right now, everything from the middle east crises to the iran problem with israel and with us, and, of course, china as a scapegoat for both candidates really, and i think it's important that we continue this discussion of foreign policy as the debates approach over the next month. >> exactly. now we've got netanyahu...
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i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really
i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a...
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the problem is republicans -- for the first time ever, howard, the democrats are owning foreign policy and national security and they're all on message. looked at super pac messages. republicans are dealing out different messages depending where they are, who the super pac is and a romney campaign doing it's own mixes message. >> look at polling acro cros cross-count cross-country, at federal and local level, republicans across the board have taken a hit in the last two or three weeks. i think it began with todd akins' comments in missouri where people say, they're too extreme on social issues, this makes me anxious, specially women and followed up with romney's comments about the 47%, people who weren't concerned about the social issues said that's making me uncomfortable on the economic issues and this resonated across the board. you have a brand in some crisis and republicans are increasingly nervous at all levels. you hear some chatter that some of the big money folks will decide to pull money from the romney super pacs and begin shoring up the house of representatives' pacs and se
the problem is republicans -- for the first time ever, howard, the democrats are owning foreign policy and national security and they're all on message. looked at super pac messages. republicans are dealing out different messages depending where they are, who the super pac is and a romney campaign doing it's own mixes message. >> look at polling acro cros cross-count cross-country, at federal and local level, republicans across the board have taken a hit in the last two or three weeks. i...
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he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example started gaining on al gore when they faced off in 2000. is it usually the case that debates are quite the kind of game-changer that everybody thinks this one has to be for romney to do anything successfully in november? >> no, it's not. the historical data shows that i think we sort of exaggerate the role of debates. i would tip my hat to t
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. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's economy but have not slowed down the nuclear program. the report calls for another round of sanctions to be implemented. >> in the race for the white house, we have got new batch of poll numbers coming out on three more battleground states. according to the new nbc/"wall street journal"/marist college poll, the president has a slim lead over voters in north carolina where the democrats held their national convention earlier this month. obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of error and in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a hom
. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's...
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foreign policy, that is. domestically, the impact of it and prime minister benjamin netanyahu is scheduled to give a tough speech on iran in the next hour, setting a clear red line. is he trying to back the president into a corner? >>> plus, good call. nfl referees back on the field tonight for the cleveland browns. baltimore ravens game. what do you think about their labor deal? one thing that i have learned this morning, you do not tease chris jansing about the cleveland browns. don't ever do it. tweet me at. key r ole throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you kn
foreign policy, that is. domestically, the impact of it and prime minister benjamin netanyahu is scheduled to give a tough speech on iran in the next hour, setting a clear red line. is he trying to back the president into a corner? >>> plus, good call. nfl referees back on the field tonight for the cleveland browns. baltimore ravens game. what do you think about their labor deal? one thing that i have learned this morning, you do not tease chris jansing about the cleveland browns....
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foreign policy is more of an issue in in election than it was in 2008 which is something very few people would have predicted going into 2008 for sure. it's unpredictable with the arab spring. it's a very fluid dynamic. president obama gave a speech at the u.n. yesterday which i thought was interesting and pretty incoherent. said we're not going to determine the democratic outcomes of what's happening there and at the same time the syrian leader must step down and a nuclear weapon for iran is intolerable. i think both parties have a pretty good co-heirens about the u.s. power in that world and that's going to make things pretty dynamic for a long time. >> is it unclear? >> i think it's an important thing and i think it has been been too little of a debate. this is primarily a dough necessary tick policy of the elect. the majority is not thinking of these. they're primarily voting on domestic issues. you now have a country that's exhausted with two wars. he's made such a hash when it comes to his tour and going over to europe and the first 24 hours of the libyan debate was so mismanaged.
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foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight. the president pulled ahead in florida and pennsylvania, as well. drastic times call for drastic measures. the romney campaign is out with a new ad and just romney and the came camera. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. >> but that is a tough sell with middle class voters who believe romney's economic policies only benefit the rich. is it time for romney 4.0? so, i dug in to this quinnipiac poll and a few things that were interesting and struck me. first of all, there's so many people have
foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight. the president pulled ahead in...
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can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or launch an attack on the israeli question, he would look like he was trying to score political points in a debate where he's supposed to be talking about the economy. one of the rules i have for the debates you don't fight with the moderator and you don't invade the other person's space. >> a violation of the newt gingrich rule which was to completely go after maria bartiromo and john harwood at the cnbc debate in michigan and make -- make them the target. >> he was looking for right wing base voters who hate the media. i don't think that's the situation here. when you fight with the moderator and som
can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or...
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. >> to that point, michael, they've said that's one of their foreign policy victories. we ended the war in iraq yet at the same time there's so much iranian influence and so much suspicion of the shiite connection to iranians and the fact that iran used their airspace. do you think that this is a safe space for them to keep bragging about iraq or is iraq still a work in progress, very much a work in progress? >> well, what i tried to do in the book with general trainor was assess the administration in terms of what they themselves tried to do in iraq. they tried to do much more than just take the troops out. they tried to construct basically a coalition government, a partnership government in which power would be shared because there's a lot of concern that maliki is acting in a authoritarian way. they did try to negotiate an agreement to keep small force in iraq of 3,000 to 5,000. they did plan to have a substantial number of american police trainers. civilian presence to keep american influence in that part of the world. none of those things that they tried to do real
. >> to that point, michael, they've said that's one of their foreign policy victories. we ended the war in iraq yet at the same time there's so much iranian influence and so much suspicion of the shiite connection to iranians and the fact that iran used their airspace. do you think that this is a safe space for them to keep bragging about iraq or is iraq still a work in progress, very much a work in progress? >> well, what i tried to do in the book with general trainor was assess...
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interesting this traditionally before the debates, he's been doing a lot of debate prep, but foreign policy is taking somewhat more of a roll in the campaign and certainly their attention to it. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, that's right. his second intelligence briefing. first one taken a week ago in los angeles at some of the headquarters there. you know what's interesting to note is the focus in virginia, of course, is on military issues, attacking the president on sequestration, the looming defense budget cuts effectively linking defense and national security to the economy which has been his primary message. the campaign has been flooding reporters with numbers and he mentioned them today, suggesting that sequestration cuts would effectively have an impact on 168,000 jobs, costing 168,000 jobs in the state. he said 136,000, 68,000 among small businesses specifically. and he was here with people in this critical battleground who he said have been to battle before. these are people in the military community, a lot of veterans here at american legion hall where he was speaking that he
interesting this traditionally before the debates, he's been doing a lot of debate prep, but foreign policy is taking somewhat more of a roll in the campaign and certainly their attention to it. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, that's right. his second intelligence briefing. first one taken a week ago in los angeles at some of the headquarters there. you know what's interesting to note is the focus in virginia, of course, is on military issues, attacking the president on sequestration, the...
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over the past three and a half years, a failed foreign policy, and it's just maddening. i know you probably can't say it on tv in the same way that i did but every conservative i talked to, they're just so frustrated. >> i think they're frustrated in part. this is the difference between clinton and frankly the last -- every republican nominee since reagan. i mean, reagan was a democrat and a tv star and movie star who got communicating. regular democrats get corporate meetings. i mean regular republicans. there is almost this republican consultant culture that says your job is to go raise money and i'll buy clever ads. as a result you don't get, i mean no president has been more vulnerable to an aggressive opponent than barack obama. for the reason you're saying. somebody who could just calm lane methodically -- >> you said something fascinating. you talked about a consultant culture, something that craig shirley and other, i call them true conservatives, true reagan conservatives, gingrich conservatives, people who grew the majority in the 1980s and '90s they believe th
over the past three and a half years, a failed foreign policy, and it's just maddening. i know you probably can't say it on tv in the same way that i did but every conservative i talked to, they're just so frustrated. >> i think they're frustrated in part. this is the difference between clinton and frankly the last -- every republican nominee since reagan. i mean, reagan was a democrat and a tv star and movie star who got communicating. regular democrats get corporate meetings. i mean...
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. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afghanistan and fighting a counter-insurgency campaign, were you wrong and was your vice president right? >> vice p
. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama...
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policy and how to keep america safe. he's taken terrorists off the battlefield, including osama bin laden. he's ended the war in iraq and strengthened our relationships around the world. mitt romney would go back to the cowboy diplomacy that got us into many of the problems the president faced when he came into offense. >> i want to play you poart of mr. romney's speech. take a listen. >> egypt now with the muslim brotherhood president, pakistan high highly tu mu tu with us. >> pakistan, highly tumultuous. >> sounds like he didn't get far into his briefing on pakistan. i mean, of course, pakistan, afghanistan, that area of the world, you know, is an area that the president has focused on. he's taken a number of terrorists off the battlefield. >> tumultuous? it's going to be tumultuous tonight at the ravens game against the cleveland browns. that's tumultuous. pakistan is tumultuous? >> mitt romney just about every time he appears in public he shows how ill prepared he is to be president or commander in chief. we saw last
policy and how to keep america safe. he's taken terrorists off the battlefield, including osama bin laden. he's ended the war in iraq and strengthened our relationships around the world. mitt romney would go back to the cowboy diplomacy that got us into many of the problems the president faced when he came into offense. >> i want to play you poart of mr. romney's speech. take a listen. >> egypt now with the muslim brotherhood president, pakistan high highly tu mu tu with us....
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. >>> the obama administration's foreign policy moved domestic concerns to the side for a time this week. the president on tuesday addressing the u.n.'s general assembly meeting. the middle east and the threat posed by iran's nuclear weapons program topped the agenda there. after his speech, the president had no follow-up meetings with foreign leaders, not even with the leader of our closest ally in the middle east, israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. prime minister netanyahu addressed the assembly thursday. and he famously used that image of a bomb with a lit fuse to make the point that iran cannot be allowed to make a nuclear weapon. >> where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. >> joining me now, mark regev, the chief spokesperson for prime minister netanyahu. good saturday afternoon to you, sir. thank you for coming back. >> my pleasure. >> governor romney spoke with the prime minister by phone on friday after the call. governor romney spoke with reporters about possible action against iran. take a listen, and i want to talk to you about his res
. >>> the obama administration's foreign policy moved domestic concerns to the side for a time this week. the president on tuesday addressing the u.n.'s general assembly meeting. the middle east and the threat posed by iran's nuclear weapons program topped the agenda there. after his speech, the president had no follow-up meetings with foreign leaders, not even with the leader of our closest ally in the middle east, israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. prime minister netanyahu...
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bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his convention speech. he said, look, i'm not going to heal the world, not going to part the seas, i want to help you and your family. the message being maybe i'm not as charismatic, i'm not a superstar the way many of you feel about this man, but i'm a businessman and i want to save you from what's happening to this economy. doesn't he play it down the middle that way? >> that's always been the whole card he's had. but he's got to project the idea that he is competent, he is fluent in creating jobs and expan
bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what...